"Ah fuck it. Let's just knock the singles and let the chips fall where they may"
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Anonymous
said...
I'm pleased with the win although it is a little bittersweet. Firstly, it's always disappointing when a game is decided on D/L, especially when it was set up for an exciting finish. Secondly, our top scorers were an Irishman, an Englishman (yay!) and a South African which sounds like the start to a bad joke. Kieswetter will be the next to play and Jacques Rudolph qualifies next year. I wonder how much longer we can call ourselves 'England' with a straight face?
DH
Vim
said...
Not for long, anonymous, if Kieswetter rocks up, the support in the press for the 'come one, come all' is going to start sounding strained and embarrassed.
What I find amusing is that the English team seems busy dumping Asian descent players who have spent their whole lives in the UK and bringing in players from SA who haven't.
As well as Irish players, who have already played as adults for Ireland and who were born and bred in Ireland. You are right, it probably won't be amusing if it keeps going.
Jacques Rudolph has decided not to play for england he is coming back to SA to play here when his kolpak contract expires in two years. althou he will be qualified he would rather play for South africa again.
Anonymous
said...
Sean, i hope you're right. Rudolph seems like a nice guy and is a good player but we need to focus on developing our own talent. I'd rather us lose than rely on the winning mentality of other nations to win us games. It doesn't seem like an true England team without a bit of timidity and a good old collapse.
Well said Roscoe. I doubt SA will ever learn how to read the D/L sheet.
Anon, "I'd rather us lose than rely on the winning mentality of other nations to win us games." Finally, someone said it!
Vim
said...
The English team are far more interesting and courageous with unfrightened players,, even if they are not really English, in it. Morgan looks like he doesn't give a damn out there and will take anyone on. I haven't seen an English player that I can think of quite like that.
just as I thought english society will never truly acept a Foreign player no matter how good they are. so why do the keep on trying to qualify for england when they are just going to be hated.
Darren Buser on November 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM
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It is a tough situation because if you are one run behind, its not a big deal (unless the rain starts to suddenly bucket down, as it did) but if you go for a risky shot to get ahead of the rate and in doing so lose a wicket, well then you are PROPER fucked.
As for The United Nations Of England, I don't really mind where a guy was born as long as he didn't learn his trade in one country and then bugger off to play for another.
So I have no problems with Strauss or Prior but Kieswetter was born here, spent around 19 of his 22 years living in SA, was trained by the SA system and even played for SA youth teams...so as far as I'm concerned, the guy is South African.
If he wants to play for England, fine, but he should have to spend more than a couple years in England before he can be eligible to play for them.
I'm not sure how I would feel if I was English and seeing so many "foreigners" representing me. I guess success trumps everything though.
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I'm pleased with the win although it is a little bittersweet. Firstly, it's always disappointing when a game is decided on D/L, especially when it was set up for an exciting finish. Secondly, our top scorers were an Irishman, an Englishman (yay!) and a South African which sounds like the start to a bad joke. Kieswetter will be the next to play and Jacques Rudolph qualifies next year. I wonder how much longer we can call ourselves 'England' with a straight face?
DH
Not for long, anonymous, if Kieswetter rocks up, the support in the press for the 'come one, come all' is going to start sounding strained and embarrassed.
What I find amusing is that the English team seems busy dumping Asian descent players who have spent their whole lives in the UK and bringing in players from SA who haven't.
As well as Irish players, who have already played as adults for Ireland and who were born and bred in Ireland. You are right, it probably won't be amusing if it keeps going.
Jacques Rudolph has decided not to play for england he is coming back to SA to play here when his kolpak contract expires in two years. althou he will be qualified he would rather play for South africa again.
Sean, i hope you're right. Rudolph seems like a nice guy and is a good player but we need to focus on developing our own talent. I'd rather us lose than rely on the winning mentality of other nations to win us games. It doesn't seem like an true England team without a bit of timidity and a good old collapse.
DH
Well said Roscoe. I doubt SA will ever learn how to read the D/L sheet.
Anon, "I'd rather us lose than rely on the winning mentality of other nations to win us games."
Finally, someone said it!
The English team are far more interesting and courageous with unfrightened players,, even if they are not really English, in it. Morgan looks like he doesn't give a damn out there and will take anyone on. I haven't seen an English player that I can think of quite like that.
just as I thought english society will never truly acept a Foreign player no matter how good they are. so why do the keep on trying to qualify for england when they are just going to be hated.
It is a tough situation because if you are one run behind, its not a big deal (unless the rain starts to suddenly bucket down, as it did) but if you go for a risky shot to get ahead of the rate and in doing so lose a wicket, well then you are PROPER fucked.
As for The United Nations Of England, I don't really mind where a guy was born as long as he didn't learn his trade in one country and then bugger off to play for another.
So I have no problems with Strauss or Prior but Kieswetter was born here, spent around 19 of his 22 years living in SA, was trained by the SA system and even played for SA youth teams...so as far as I'm concerned, the guy is South African.
If he wants to play for England, fine, but he should have to spend more than a couple years in England before he can be eligible to play for them.
I'm not sure how I would feel if I was English and seeing so many "foreigners" representing me. I guess success trumps everything though.
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